they fly more passengers in the united states than anybody else. and what does jet blue and air tran do? those three airlines now totally control pricing for domestic travel in the u.s. so what i'm going to watch for, an the only thing people need to worry about is if they say hey, this sounds like a good idea to us, too. because if they don't then this is just a lot of smoke signifying nothing. >> so they can't hold water basically so to speak. the surcharges. but you said, and i just want to clarify this. we're talking about the holidays here. but this is going to continue into the spring? >> yeah, well there's one in february that's that $50 surcharge each way. >> each way! >> each way. >> yeah. this is real money, isn't it? it's great money if you can really get away with charging it. that's why i don't take this too seriously. i just don't see this surviving. you know, the airlines overand over again will float these things -- because it's illegal for airlines to sit in a room and say let's raise this fare this much to this market. they do it